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		<title>By: Iris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Iris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 12:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>.....and Jewish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;..and Jewish.</p>
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		<title>By: Iris</title>
		<link>http://www.jewdas.org/2009/08/jewish-comedy-in-retreat/comment-page-1/#comment-68978</link>
		<dc:creator>Iris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 12:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you think these &quot;Jew jokes&quot; are bad, try being blonde.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you think these &#8220;Jew jokes&#8221; are bad, try being blonde.</p>
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		<title>By: robert red</title>
		<link>http://www.jewdas.org/2009/08/jewish-comedy-in-retreat/comment-page-1/#comment-349</link>
		<dc:creator>robert red</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 23:10:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi Ivor, thanks for taking the time to reply, good luck with whatever you&#039;re doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi Ivor, thanks for taking the time to reply, good luck with whatever you&#8217;re doing.</p>
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		<title>By: Ivor Dembina</title>
		<link>http://www.jewdas.org/2009/08/jewish-comedy-in-retreat/comment-page-1/#comment-329</link>
		<dc:creator>Ivor Dembina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 23:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Robert.  I&#039;m up to my neck in stuff and connot take on your request right now.  Sorry.  Ivor</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Robert.  I&#8217;m up to my neck in stuff and connot take on your request right now.  Sorry.  Ivor</p>
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		<title>By: robert red</title>
		<link>http://www.jewdas.org/2009/08/jewish-comedy-in-retreat/comment-page-1/#comment-327</link>
		<dc:creator>robert red</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 21:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi Ivor, would you do me a favour and read a comment I put on the topic &#039;&#039; are you interbreeding?&#039;&#039;. Ive been popping back for a scan and no one seems about. Do you think what I wrote was &#039;too far&#039; or it&#039;s just that this site isnt very busy? I&#039;ve enjoyed reading what people have written even though some of it is hard to follow, especially tony greenstein, as it quickly gets a bit deep and I&#039;m soon out me depth. I&#039;m not over sensitive but these articles are like an invitation to a meeting or a chit-chat,and when you go out for a piss only to return to an empty room. Why do you think there isn&#039;t much &#039;traffic&#039; as  the idea  of a site for jews and non jews to discuss jew and non jew issues freely, without overt prejudice is a good one. Alot of the political jewish topics are very emotionally charged, so there&#039;s bound to be a bit of &#039;to and fro&#039;. Anyway thanks, I&#039;ll check back in a couple of days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi Ivor, would you do me a favour and read a comment I put on the topic &#8221; are you interbreeding?&#8221;. Ive been popping back for a scan and no one seems about. Do you think what I wrote was &#8216;too far&#8217; or it&#8217;s just that this site isnt very busy? I&#8217;ve enjoyed reading what people have written even though some of it is hard to follow, especially tony greenstein, as it quickly gets a bit deep and I&#8217;m soon out me depth. I&#8217;m not over sensitive but these articles are like an invitation to a meeting or a chit-chat,and when you go out for a piss only to return to an empty room. Why do you think there isn&#8217;t much &#8216;traffic&#8217; as  the idea  of a site for jews and non jews to discuss jew and non jew issues freely, without overt prejudice is a good one. Alot of the political jewish topics are very emotionally charged, so there&#8217;s bound to be a bit of &#8216;to and fro&#8217;. Anyway thanks, I&#8217;ll check back in a couple of days.</p>
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		<title>By: Rudolf the red-nosed Rocker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rudolf the red-nosed Rocker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 16:05:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lev: &quot;Lets also add that the President of Iran talks of...&quot;
This concept may be a new one for you, but in the world I live in, politicians sometimes talk about doing things that they don&#039;t intend to actually do. Shocking, I know, but these things do happen. Do you think that the Iranian regime could launch a nuclear attack on Israel and not be overthrown or annihilated by the USA as a consequence? Or do you think that the Iranian President is so desperate to kill the Jews that he wouldn&#039;t mind losing power and almost certainly being killed himself as a consequence?
Or do you accept that Iran&#039;s rulers would certainly like to do all kinds of horrible things, but realpolitik means that they&#039;re not actually able to, so it&#039;s dishonest to talk about them as if they&#039;re likely to happen any time soon?
&quot;Ever considered Christianity?&quot;
Ever considered the possibility that there might be a difference between a millennia-old myth about the killing of a single Jew who may or may not have existed, and systematic recorded atrocities that have happened this century? Or do you not think that Israel kills civilians? I&#039;m genuinely curious about where you&#039;re going with this one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lev: &#8220;Lets also add that the President of Iran talks of&#8230;&#8221;<br />
This concept may be a new one for you, but in the world I live in, politicians sometimes talk about doing things that they don&#8217;t intend to actually do. Shocking, I know, but these things do happen. Do you think that the Iranian regime could launch a nuclear attack on Israel and not be overthrown or annihilated by the USA as a consequence? Or do you think that the Iranian President is so desperate to kill the Jews that he wouldn&#8217;t mind losing power and almost certainly being killed himself as a consequence?<br />
Or do you accept that Iran&#8217;s rulers would certainly like to do all kinds of horrible things, but realpolitik means that they&#8217;re not actually able to, so it&#8217;s dishonest to talk about them as if they&#8217;re likely to happen any time soon?<br />
&#8220;Ever considered Christianity?&#8221;<br />
Ever considered the possibility that there might be a difference between a millennia-old myth about the killing of a single Jew who may or may not have existed, and systematic recorded atrocities that have happened this century? Or do you not think that Israel kills civilians? I&#8217;m genuinely curious about where you&#8217;re going with this one.</p>
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		<title>By: Ivor Dembina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ivor Dembina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 19:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi again Lev.  In one short posting you mange to quote the me, the President of Iran, the New Tetament and still find room for a quick lesson in ballistic missile strategy and a reference to tautological thought.  Sorry mate, I can&#039;t keep up, so this is where I bail out.

peace

ivor</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi again Lev.  In one short posting you mange to quote the me, the President of Iran, the New Tetament and still find room for a quick lesson in ballistic missile strategy and a reference to tautological thought.  Sorry mate, I can&#8217;t keep up, so this is where I bail out.</p>
<p>peace</p>
<p>ivor</p>
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		<title>By: Ivor Dembina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ivor Dembina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 12:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi again Robert. I&#039;ve met Yariv and have seen him perform.  I also watched his 7 minute atand up clip on You tube.  I don&#039;t think he&#039;d complain if I told you that it was filmed at a time when he was still trying to find his feet on stage and disocver has own particular stand-up voice.  Some of his jokes are quite good and he&#039;s got a nice comic attitude, but as we see in the clip, the way he shifts around from subject to subject gives the overall thing a generic feel.  Nevertheless, its good to see an Israeli taking a few pops at his own country.  As for the Israeli ambassador incident, I heard something about it and my guess is that the &#039;dignitary&#039; attended Yariv&#039;s show under the assumption that anything Israeli must be good and therefore it was important to be seen publicly supporting it.  If this was the case then it reveals the envoy&#039;s delusional attitude that all Israelis speak with the same voice when we know there are many Israelis who experience disgust at their own country&#039;s leadership.  In the past I&#039;ve experiecned something similar when some Jewish people turn up at my own show expecting to enjoy it simply because it comes with a Jewish label.  They leave (sometimes before the end) unable to believe what they&#039;ve heard with their own ears.  Attacking the Zionist&#039;s false claim about a consensus among the diaspora is of course part of my job, and I sense that Yariv working along the same lines. In so far as that is true, I wish him the best of luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi again Robert. I&#8217;ve met Yariv and have seen him perform.  I also watched his 7 minute atand up clip on You tube.  I don&#8217;t think he&#8217;d complain if I told you that it was filmed at a time when he was still trying to find his feet on stage and disocver has own particular stand-up voice.  Some of his jokes are quite good and he&#8217;s got a nice comic attitude, but as we see in the clip, the way he shifts around from subject to subject gives the overall thing a generic feel.  Nevertheless, its good to see an Israeli taking a few pops at his own country.  As for the Israeli ambassador incident, I heard something about it and my guess is that the &#8216;dignitary&#8217; attended Yariv&#8217;s show under the assumption that anything Israeli must be good and therefore it was important to be seen publicly supporting it.  If this was the case then it reveals the envoy&#8217;s delusional attitude that all Israelis speak with the same voice when we know there are many Israelis who experience disgust at their own country&#8217;s leadership.  In the past I&#8217;ve experiecned something similar when some Jewish people turn up at my own show expecting to enjoy it simply because it comes with a Jewish label.  They leave (sometimes before the end) unable to believe what they&#8217;ve heard with their own ears.  Attacking the Zionist&#8217;s false claim about a consensus among the diaspora is of course part of my job, and I sense that Yariv working along the same lines. In so far as that is true, I wish him the best of luck.</p>
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		<title>By: robert red</title>
		<link>http://www.jewdas.org/2009/08/jewish-comedy-in-retreat/comment-page-1/#comment-181</link>
		<dc:creator>robert red</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 10:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A comedian called Yariv Perelmuter was in the msm yesterday for having a pop at two israeli embassy officials during his act at the edinburgh fringe after inviting them to his show. He has a couple of videos on utube. The routine (critique of israel wise) only works if the audience know a bit about what the situation is. I suppose thats the same with all things. For me it worked, with no mention of the &#039;all justifying&#039; H word, acceptance of israels unpopularity and a sprinkling of potent pro arab history.Hey its obvious I&#039;m no brian sewell, it&#039;s just an opinion. What did you reckon Ivor?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A comedian called Yariv Perelmuter was in the msm yesterday for having a pop at two israeli embassy officials during his act at the edinburgh fringe after inviting them to his show. He has a couple of videos on utube. The routine (critique of israel wise) only works if the audience know a bit about what the situation is. I suppose thats the same with all things. For me it worked, with no mention of the &#8216;all justifying&#8217; H word, acceptance of israels unpopularity and a sprinkling of potent pro arab history.Hey its obvious I&#8217;m no brian sewell, it&#8217;s just an opinion. What did you reckon Ivor?</p>
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		<title>By: Lev</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 12:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ivor: &quot;It is, as yous say, incontrovertibility (sic) true that a nuclear armed Iran would be able to kill all Israelis; hardly surprising given that it is a self-defining assertion.&quot;

It&#039;s hardly a tautology in the way that say, &quot;2+2=4&quot; is true by definition. Iran still needs missile delivery systems (which they have) and Israel&#039;s missile defence system needs to be shit (which it is). Lets also add that the President of Iran talks of the 
necessity of wiping Israel off the map and says things like,

&quot;I warn you to abandon the filthy Zionist entity, which has reached the end of the line. It has lost its reason to be and will sooner or later fall. The ones who still support the criminal Zionists should know that the occupiers&#039; days are numbered. … Accept that the life of Zionists will sooner or later come to an end.&quot; 30 Jan 2008

and there is legitimate cause for concern for those who do not want this to happen.

Ivor: &quot;...Zionism turning Israel into one of the most despised nations on earth, I might have connsidered (sic) that one.&quot;

Ever considered Christianity?

&quot;When Pilate saw that he could not prevail at all, but rather that a tumult was rising, he took water and washed his hands and said, “I am innocent of the blood of this Just person. You see to it.” And all the people answered and said, “His blood be upon us and on our children.” (Matthew 27:24–25)&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ivor: &#8220;It is, as yous say, incontrovertibility (sic) true that a nuclear armed Iran would be able to kill all Israelis; hardly surprising given that it is a self-defining assertion.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s hardly a tautology in the way that say, &#8220;2+2=4&#8243; is true by definition. Iran still needs missile delivery systems (which they have) and Israel&#8217;s missile defence system needs to be shit (which it is). Lets also add that the President of Iran talks of the<br />
necessity of wiping Israel off the map and says things like,</p>
<p>&#8220;I warn you to abandon the filthy Zionist entity, which has reached the end of the line. It has lost its reason to be and will sooner or later fall. The ones who still support the criminal Zionists should know that the occupiers&#8217; days are numbered. … Accept that the life of Zionists will sooner or later come to an end.&#8221; 30 Jan 2008</p>
<p>and there is legitimate cause for concern for those who do not want this to happen.</p>
<p>Ivor: &#8220;&#8230;Zionism turning Israel into one of the most despised nations on earth, I might have connsidered (sic) that one.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ever considered Christianity?</p>
<p>&#8220;When Pilate saw that he could not prevail at all, but rather that a tumult was rising, he took water and washed his hands and said, “I am innocent of the blood of this Just person. You see to it.” And all the people answered and said, “His blood be upon us and on our children.” (Matthew 27:24–25)&#8221;</p>
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