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		<title>By: Tony Greenstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony Greenstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 01:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The first thing to note is that the JC&#039;s circulation has been in decline for some considerable time.

Secondly it has never been a good paper in any conventional sense.  It has been the paper of the Jewish establishment and that is why for example in the 1930&#039;s it urged Jews to stay at home at the time of Cable Street rather than confront the fascists.  That was the message of the Board of Deputies  and the JC fulfilled its function in passing on the message.  It did likewise when the National Front reared its head in the 1970&#039;s.

Thirdly to suggest the JC is in the peace camp because it has had critical editorials on e.g. Lieberman is to miss the point.  It is because the JC is wedded to Zionism and Israel, right or wrong, that it recognises that having a fascist foreign minister hardly does much for Israel&#039;s reputation (though these days very little does).

Fourthly to suggest that Jonathan Freedland, a weak-kneed liberal Zionist is a counter-weight to Melanie Phillips or indeed Geoffrey Alderman it to grasp at straws.  The last dissident columnist the JC had was the late Chaim Bermant.  Alderman is a particular disappointment because 20-25 years ago he was a trenchant critic and resigned from the Board of Deputies to whistles and jeers.

Fifthly the appointment of Pollard is a sign of desparation.  Its manic pro-Zionism is designed to prove attractive to what the JC imagines to be the heartland of Jewry.

What you won&#039;t find in the JC, under any editor, is consistent coverage of the things that fill the internet, such as the story I posted on an Arab child barred from a nursery because she is not Jewish.  If that happened anywhere else in the world the JC would be leading the charge.  Routing deference to the IDF means that the JC isn&#039;t, and never has, retained any sense of independence.

It is true that the days of T R Fyvel, an associate of Orwell, are gone.  But the appointment of Pollard is an attempt by the JC to survive an increasingly difficult climate for all the print media.

One of the major criticisms of the JC, and this applies to the last 25 years, is that it doesn&#039;t  represent or articulate the concerns of secular Jews who don&#039;t go to synagogues.  Instead it treats the Board of Deputies as genuine representatives of British Jews when many of its constituent organisations are effectively rotten boroughs.  That is why when it does cover the activities of non-Zionist or anti-Zionist groups it does it in the context of a typical tabloid hatchet job, e.g. the front page article a couple of weeks ago on JfJP.
A more pertinent question might be why the Zionist Federation has appointed a clown, one Jonathan Hoffman, as its deputy Chairman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first thing to note is that the JC&#8217;s circulation has been in decline for some considerable time.</p>
<p>Secondly it has never been a good paper in any conventional sense.  It has been the paper of the Jewish establishment and that is why for example in the 1930&#8242;s it urged Jews to stay at home at the time of Cable Street rather than confront the fascists.  That was the message of the Board of Deputies  and the JC fulfilled its function in passing on the message.  It did likewise when the National Front reared its head in the 1970&#8242;s.</p>
<p>Thirdly to suggest the JC is in the peace camp because it has had critical editorials on e.g. Lieberman is to miss the point.  It is because the JC is wedded to Zionism and Israel, right or wrong, that it recognises that having a fascist foreign minister hardly does much for Israel&#8217;s reputation (though these days very little does).</p>
<p>Fourthly to suggest that Jonathan Freedland, a weak-kneed liberal Zionist is a counter-weight to Melanie Phillips or indeed Geoffrey Alderman it to grasp at straws.  The last dissident columnist the JC had was the late Chaim Bermant.  Alderman is a particular disappointment because 20-25 years ago he was a trenchant critic and resigned from the Board of Deputies to whistles and jeers.</p>
<p>Fifthly the appointment of Pollard is a sign of desparation.  Its manic pro-Zionism is designed to prove attractive to what the JC imagines to be the heartland of Jewry.</p>
<p>What you won&#8217;t find in the JC, under any editor, is consistent coverage of the things that fill the internet, such as the story I posted on an Arab child barred from a nursery because she is not Jewish.  If that happened anywhere else in the world the JC would be leading the charge.  Routing deference to the IDF means that the JC isn&#8217;t, and never has, retained any sense of independence.</p>
<p>It is true that the days of T R Fyvel, an associate of Orwell, are gone.  But the appointment of Pollard is an attempt by the JC to survive an increasingly difficult climate for all the print media.</p>
<p>One of the major criticisms of the JC, and this applies to the last 25 years, is that it doesn&#8217;t  represent or articulate the concerns of secular Jews who don&#8217;t go to synagogues.  Instead it treats the Board of Deputies as genuine representatives of British Jews when many of its constituent organisations are effectively rotten boroughs.  That is why when it does cover the activities of non-Zionist or anti-Zionist groups it does it in the context of a typical tabloid hatchet job, e.g. the front page article a couple of weeks ago on JfJP.<br />
A more pertinent question might be why the Zionist Federation has appointed a clown, one Jonathan Hoffman, as its deputy Chairman.</p>
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		<title>By: Deborah Fink</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deborah Fink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 01:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Jonathan Hoffman hasn&#039;t graced us wth his presence again...Shame, as I thought his comment was the most amusing.

On the Just Peace UK list, Diana made some suggestions as to what the JC is good for, which I added to, advising her to write a book, &#039;101 uses for the JC&#039;.

Here are some:
Paper aeroplane, paper hat, wrapping up rubbish, floor protection when decorating, bonfires, loo paper, cat litter tray liner...or put it in the recycle bin and hope that it will be reincarnated as a Guardian /Independent.......

Frank Fisher pointed out that we spend a lot of time reading and talking about a paper which we don&#039;t like, so I admitted that I have a love-hate relationship with it - I love to hate it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Jonathan Hoffman hasn&#8217;t graced us wth his presence again&#8230;Shame, as I thought his comment was the most amusing.</p>
<p>On the Just Peace UK list, Diana made some suggestions as to what the JC is good for, which I added to, advising her to write a book, &#8217;101 uses for the JC&#8217;.</p>
<p>Here are some:<br />
Paper aeroplane, paper hat, wrapping up rubbish, floor protection when decorating, bonfires, loo paper, cat litter tray liner&#8230;or put it in the recycle bin and hope that it will be reincarnated as a Guardian /Independent&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>Frank Fisher pointed out that we spend a lot of time reading and talking about a paper which we don&#8217;t like, so I admitted that I have a love-hate relationship with it &#8211; I love to hate it.</p>
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		<title>By: KarlMarxBeard</title>
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		<dc:creator>KarlMarxBeard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 19:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My family make a very good microcosm of the typical readership

My Aunt – Fearful right-winger turns to it for the endless propaganda on why we are so hard done by and at eternal risk.

My Grandfather – a Jewish elder scanning through the pages to see if any one he vaguely knows has died recently.

My Father – to have an excuse to complain about how the paper is only about North West London and that Kosher food is stupidly overpriced.

My Mother – to lament that my friend’s arre all getting married and having babies yet her children have little and no intention.

My Sister – to prop up her wonky legged chest of draws

Me – With little other choice for reading I turn to it to help with the home cooked meal defecation.

 Frankly like most of the print media the JC is going the way of the stone tablet. As with anything past its prime the old fart has gone more right as a 1970s South American junta and a little senile to boot. I say order the meals on wheels and hope we get something in The Will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My family make a very good microcosm of the typical readership</p>
<p>My Aunt – Fearful right-winger turns to it for the endless propaganda on why we are so hard done by and at eternal risk.</p>
<p>My Grandfather – a Jewish elder scanning through the pages to see if any one he vaguely knows has died recently.</p>
<p>My Father – to have an excuse to complain about how the paper is only about North West London and that Kosher food is stupidly overpriced.</p>
<p>My Mother – to lament that my friend’s arre all getting married and having babies yet her children have little and no intention.</p>
<p>My Sister – to prop up her wonky legged chest of draws</p>
<p>Me – With little other choice for reading I turn to it to help with the home cooked meal defecation.</p>
<p> Frankly like most of the print media the JC is going the way of the stone tablet. As with anything past its prime the old fart has gone more right as a 1970s South American junta and a little senile to boot. I say order the meals on wheels and hope we get something in The Will.</p>
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		<title>By: Rankin Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rankin Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 16:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://swordsandploughshares.blogspot.com/2009/08/writers-blocked-when-journalists-should.html</description>
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		<title>By: marzutra</title>
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		<dc:creator>marzutra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 11:41:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ms Thoret, you&#039;re talking sweet music to my withered jewdas heart</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ms Thoret, you&#8217;re talking sweet music to my withered jewdas heart</p>
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		<title>By: Ms Thoret</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ms Thoret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 21:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The JC did cover the 1998 JFS Food March where pretty much everyone from year 10 staged a sit down protest outside the ex-head-mistresses office to protest against the schools appalling catering. They even reported the renegade split off march where a few students called for BLTs.  Because of the JC&#039;s single paragraph a new catering company was swept in within a week (which, if I remember correctly, served the tastier of two cardboard sandwiches for lunch). The power of the JC. 

I wonder if I ever remember the JC being mildly better than it is now. I mean it&#039;s always been an ignorant and xenophobic rag, from its open racism towards Palestinians today to its open racism towards pogrom refugees. 

I&#039;d be happy if Pollard coughed up his mothers milk but then I&#039;d also smile if a lightning bolt hit the JC offices (whilst nobody was in, of course). The JC plays a core role in manufacturing the abyss of Jewish life in Britain today.

We need something entirely new.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The JC did cover the 1998 JFS Food March where pretty much everyone from year 10 staged a sit down protest outside the ex-head-mistresses office to protest against the schools appalling catering. They even reported the renegade split off march where a few students called for BLTs.  Because of the JC&#8217;s single paragraph a new catering company was swept in within a week (which, if I remember correctly, served the tastier of two cardboard sandwiches for lunch). The power of the JC. </p>
<p>I wonder if I ever remember the JC being mildly better than it is now. I mean it&#8217;s always been an ignorant and xenophobic rag, from its open racism towards Palestinians today to its open racism towards pogrom refugees. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d be happy if Pollard coughed up his mothers milk but then I&#8217;d also smile if a lightning bolt hit the JC offices (whilst nobody was in, of course). The JC plays a core role in manufacturing the abyss of Jewish life in Britain today.</p>
<p>We need something entirely new.</p>
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		<title>By: rebbe</title>
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		<dc:creator>rebbe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 19:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hatch, match and dispatch? Is it just me, or aren&#039;t we overlooking the &#039;on the social scene&#039; pages?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hatch, match and dispatch? Is it just me, or aren&#8217;t we overlooking the &#8216;on the social scene&#8217; pages?</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 18:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What exactly is the point of the Jewish Chronicle.

In this day and age of online, the JC serves no real purpose other than showcasing hatch, match and dispatch in its pages.

More people probably come to this site and post comments than the JC can ever achieve and that says something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What exactly is the point of the Jewish Chronicle.</p>
<p>In this day and age of online, the JC serves no real purpose other than showcasing hatch, match and dispatch in its pages.</p>
<p>More people probably come to this site and post comments than the JC can ever achieve and that says something.</p>
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		<title>By: Vivien</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vivien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 09:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Itslikeahoneymooneverymonth:

“it [an e-mail] was sent to all of JFJFP’s signatories of which there are hundreds” – over 1,500, actually

“There was a reaction comment from Jeremy Newmark from the Jewish Leadership Council” – this was, unsurprisingly, distorted and inaccurate, including his description of JfJfP as anti-Israel and anti-Zionist – it is neither.


It&#039;ll be interesting to see how the JC covers the new Board of Deputies President, Vivian Wineman, who can certainly be described as a peace-nik, and who has already been criticised by Jonathan Hoffman in the Jerusalem Post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Itslikeahoneymooneverymonth:</p>
<p>“it [an e-mail] was sent to all of JFJFP’s signatories of which there are hundreds” – over 1,500, actually</p>
<p>“There was a reaction comment from Jeremy Newmark from the Jewish Leadership Council” – this was, unsurprisingly, distorted and inaccurate, including his description of JfJfP as anti-Israel and anti-Zionist – it is neither.</p>
<p>It&#8217;ll be interesting to see how the JC covers the new Board of Deputies President, Vivian Wineman, who can certainly be described as a peace-nik, and who has already been criticised by Jonathan Hoffman in the Jerusalem Post.</p>
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		<title>By: Gwendolen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gwendolen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 08:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s fascinating that Jonathan Hoffman thinks the JC&#039;s devotion of &quot;many column inches recently to the JFS ‘Sedley Judgment&#039;&quot; is because it&#039;s so open to debate. 
In recent months, the paper has been characterised by shallow, under-researched journalism that contorts news to fit a simple-minded agenda, and carries &#039;features&#039; that would be rejected by a half-decent school magazine.
The JFS coverage was unique -- and astonishing -- because the JC was obviously completely flummoxed about what line it was supposed to take. Should it follow our eminent  leader and have a fight with the British state? Could the bowing and scraping JC take issue with the British Appeal Judges (one of them Jewish!)? So many high status people took opposing views that all the paper could do was spin round and wonder what to think. Since it had no choice but to cover the story, it gave space to a diverse and conflicting range of views and uniquely, actually reflected vibrant challenging debate within the community.
And now our super-intellectual Chief Rabbi is moving to impose a religious practice test on applicants to Jewish schools. It will be interesting to watch the response of all those non-practising, thoroughly kosher families who would rather their children travelled 5 miles to school than be tainted by the hoi polloi at the local comp.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s fascinating that Jonathan Hoffman thinks the JC&#8217;s devotion of &#8220;many column inches recently to the JFS ‘Sedley Judgment&#8217;&#8221; is because it&#8217;s so open to debate.<br />
In recent months, the paper has been characterised by shallow, under-researched journalism that contorts news to fit a simple-minded agenda, and carries &#8216;features&#8217; that would be rejected by a half-decent school magazine.<br />
The JFS coverage was unique &#8212; and astonishing &#8212; because the JC was obviously completely flummoxed about what line it was supposed to take. Should it follow our eminent  leader and have a fight with the British state? Could the bowing and scraping JC take issue with the British Appeal Judges (one of them Jewish!)? So many high status people took opposing views that all the paper could do was spin round and wonder what to think. Since it had no choice but to cover the story, it gave space to a diverse and conflicting range of views and uniquely, actually reflected vibrant challenging debate within the community.<br />
And now our super-intellectual Chief Rabbi is moving to impose a religious practice test on applicants to Jewish schools. It will be interesting to watch the response of all those non-practising, thoroughly kosher families who would rather their children travelled 5 miles to school than be tainted by the hoi polloi at the local comp.</p>
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