Comments on: Big Ticket Festivals http://www.jewdas.org/2009/10/big-ticket-festivals/ radical voices for the alternative diaspora... Fri, 16 Dec 2011 14:17:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: just nukem http://www.jewdas.org/2009/10/big-ticket-festivals/comment-page-1/#comment-2408 just nukem Thu, 28 Jan 2010 12:28:10 +0000 http://www.jewdas.org/?p=1202#comment-2408 What exactly does 'couldn't pay' in this scenario? Do I earn much money? Nope, Do I spend £20 on anything let alone £45 on something? Nope. But can I pay £45 if I really need to? Yes - there arent too many of us who cant pay £45 even if it means I have to buy tesco value bran flakes rather than kellogs bran flakes for a couple of months Given that I do have £45, but don't consider it an appropriate amount of money to pay given the amount I earn, and spend on things generally, would I come along and say £45 is too much for me? No way - how could I come along and take part in your services and then go home and have my kellogs bran flakes for breakfast with a clear conscience. I am guessing as well that no one did come along and ask to come along for free. So it seems to me saying those who couldnt pay dont have to, starts to put off all the people for whom £45 is a lot of money, but who would never come along and say 'I cant afford £45'. What exactly does ‘couldn’t pay’ in this scenario?

Do I earn much money? Nope, Do I spend £20 on anything let alone £45 on something? Nope.

But can I pay £45 if I really need to? Yes – there arent too many of us who cant pay £45 even if it means I have to buy tesco value bran flakes rather than kellogs bran flakes for a couple of months

Given that I do have £45, but don’t consider it an appropriate amount of money to pay given the amount I earn, and spend on things generally, would I come along and say £45 is too much for me? No way – how could I come along and take part in your services and then go home and have my kellogs bran flakes for breakfast with a clear conscience. I am guessing as well that no one did come along and ask to come along for free.

So it seems to me saying those who couldnt pay dont have to, starts to put off all the people for whom £45 is a lot of money, but who would never come along and say ‘I cant afford £45′.

]]> By: wandering jews http://www.jewdas.org/2009/10/big-ticket-festivals/comment-page-1/#comment-704 wandering jews Mon, 19 Oct 2009 14:36:02 +0000 http://www.jewdas.org/?p=1202#comment-704 FYI - we didn't hire a caterer. Chazzan helped us to create a "broad synagogue" of attendees. Those who couldn't pay, didn't have to. Those who could afford more did. WJ is still free and still post philanthropic. But GRJ was bigger than and more nuanced than anything WJ could have done on their own. Gertrude if you and Alice B won't to be part of whatever we do next (maybe bring some brownies to the pot luck) please be in touch. After all to para phrase your own good self, "an independent minyan, is an indepedent minyan, is an independent minyan" all bests, WJ FYI – we didn’t hire a caterer.
Chazzan helped us to create a “broad synagogue” of attendees.
Those who couldn’t pay, didn’t have to. Those who could afford more did.

WJ is still free and still post philanthropic.
But GRJ was bigger than and more nuanced than anything WJ could have done on their own.

Gertrude if you and Alice B won’t to be part of whatever we do next (maybe bring some brownies to the pot luck) please be in touch. After all to para phrase your own good self,
“an independent minyan, is an indepedent minyan, is an independent minyan”

all bests,

WJ

]]> By: marzutra http://www.jewdas.org/2009/10/big-ticket-festivals/comment-page-1/#comment-564 marzutra Mon, 05 Oct 2009 16:11:00 +0000 http://www.jewdas.org/?p=1202#comment-564 I guess it gives those who wouldn't enjoy or bother going to an establishment endorsed "house of worship" somewhere to go, but for £45 you think they could've at least removed "grassroots" from the title! Quite new age I guess. Always a wonder to see the various guises in which liberalism and egalitarianism trickles through. nice thought though... grassroots jews. i have enjoyed wandering jews. crikey, there's all these little sub-sects with agendas, embedded social/economic requirements and structures already! sounds like the united synagogue! I guess it gives those who wouldn’t enjoy or bother going to an establishment endorsed “house of worship” somewhere to go, but for £45 you think they could’ve at least removed “grassroots” from the title!
Quite new age I guess. Always a wonder to see the various guises in which liberalism and egalitarianism trickles through. nice thought though… grassroots jews. i have enjoyed wandering jews. crikey, there’s all these little sub-sects with agendas, embedded social/economic requirements and structures already! sounds like the united synagogue!

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